Thursday, April 28, 2011

Does the Employer Own a Worker's Job?

Here is a great article about "jobs."  I found it on Truthout, written by: Ellen Dannin, with the American Constitution Society called, "Democracy's Work - Work in a Democratic Society."

Here is a section that I liked especially because it brings up the issue of what "We the People,"acting as the U.S. Government or as U. S. Citizens, have contributed to the ability of individuals and corporations to accumulate wealth.  Even more to the point, what aspects of this country and it's resources can we claim part ownership in.  Who has some level of ownership through the role of citizen, of the water, the soil, the ecosystem the legal system, the infrastructure, the mountains, the coal and maybe even our JOBS.  Here is an excerpt from Dannin's article:
"A common starting point assumes that a job is the employer’s property and that workplace laws are a trespass on that property. However, this view fails to take into account all of the resources and investments that create and maintain jobs. No job exists without joint investments by employers, employees, and society.
Society’s investments in current and future workers include creating and supporting infrastructure that directly benefits employers and companies that operate in the United States. Among public investments that support and subsidize employers are monitoring and controlling diseases and dangers to public health; ensuring we have safe water, air, and food; monitoring and responding to weather and environmental threats; and investing in and directly building public infrastructure, including transportation, scientific discoveries, and education.
One of the most important investments that makes the United States an attractive place to do business is the stability of our system of laws and legal procedures. They ensure that agreements are enforced and disputes are settled peacefully. In addition, employers large and small receive public support through many forms of tax breaks, grants, and other financial aid and supports. Employers are also assisted by state and federal departments and agencies that provide stability, technical advice, and grants. Even more important are laws that allow employers to incorporate. These laws free companies from various sorts of liability that apply to people and allow them to exist in perpetuity. Indeed, were we to account for the dollar value of all types of public support provided to create and support jobs, it would be obvious that all jobs in this country are public sector jobs.  (My emphasis.)
Employees’ work is an investment of their time, thought, education, training, abilities, effort, and commitment to the success of the enterprise. Without these investments, no employer can succeed. The value of these resources, provided by employees, is far greater than the cost of their pay, and their contribution and investments need to be acknowledged and protected.  (Again my emphasis.)
Each job, then, has multiple investors who can make justifiable claims to joint ownership of those jobs. These property rights deserve to be recognized and protected."
Give this some serious thought.  I believe it is important to re-own what We The People have accomplished and created in this country.  This discussion about jobs is related to the ideas presented in the book, "Unjust Deserts: Wealth and Inequality in the Knowledge Economy," by Gar Alperovitz and Lew Daly which I have listed in my Suggested Reading List.  The "Powers-that-be" would love for us to feel that nothing would have ever happened in this country or will ever happen without their god-like leadership and investment.  Apparently we are supposed to buy into the idea that we were just sitting around watching in amazement as this country was founded and developed by special wise, wealthy, brilliant, generous, caring  individuals just for the benefit of the huge unwashed mass of dumb, lazy, ignorant, uninspired citizens.  In other words, we the majority.
Now we each know this is not true.  In our guts we have a suspicion that we and our friends and family are the ones who make things work.  Each individual person has their area of knowledge, interest and expertise.  It may be small and it may seem strange or unimportant, but together we make this country's most important enterprises function.  First, we make the food and the shelters.  We also solve the problems in our cities, communities and workplaces.  We help each other, we educate, we negotiate, we create and recreate, we celebrate, we work, we build, we heal, we learn, we nurture, we invent, we make art and we make fun.  And we do these things best when we don't have a lot of material possessions and when we are needed the most.  
Look around.  We made all this happen.  And we can un-make the parts we don't like.  We can do things differently if we want.  We can figure out solutions to the problems facing our country and our planet.  We certainly don't have to wait around for the "Powers-that-be" to do it since we can see that that isn't going to happen, EVER!  So, give it some thought! 

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

The Great Turning!

I love that phrase!  It is the title of one of  David Korten's books, "The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community."
Korten himself explains, "The term The Great Turning has come into widespread use to describe the awakening of a higher level of human consciousness and a human turn from an era of violence against people and nature to a new era of peace, justice and environmental restoration. Most people are not aware that this awakening is underway, because positive change rarely reaches the level of front page - or even back-page - news!YES! magazine is one of the few publications that is in the business of bringing these stories to public attention."
On Korten's website, Living Economies Forum, there is a simple chart comparing the ideas and beliefs of our current American Empire to a new kind of social organization Korten calls Earth Community.  Go to this link:  http://livingeconomiesforum.org/story-matrix to see a clear comparison of these two "stories."  Find out if we are accepting certain beliefs as truths because we have learned the story of "Empire."  See what the possibilities are and the reasons why the new "story" is based on better, testable "truths."  There are also other links to other sites full of thought, discussion, information that can help us understand the vision, the new story.  There are no "leaders" and no organization to belong to and follow.  No one is going to tell any of us what to do or what to believe.  Each person has to work those things out for themselves.  There is only each individual and their relationships, their connections, embedded in a local community, economy and ecology.
Soon I would like to start some thought and discussion on this blog, some mental "what if," scenarios.  We might actually help each other build the reality of a new story in our own hearts and minds.  We have forgotten much that we in community, used to know.  So I want to use the best and most unique qualities in human nature, our creativity, our playfulness and pleasure in invention, to begin solving problems and creating answers for our a new earth future.  I hope to find others that might want to join in.  Please let me know of other links that we might want to share here.  Bring your thoughts, worries, knowledge, and insights to share with the rest of us.

The Earth Charter (2000)

"We stand at a critical moment in Earth’s history, a time when humanity must choose its future. As the world becomes increasingly interdependent and fragile, the future at once holds great peril and great promise. To move forward we must recognize that in the midst of a magnificent diversity of cultures and life forms we are one human family and one Earth community with a common destiny. We must join together to bring forth a sustainable global society founded on respect for nature, universal human rights, economic justice, and a culture of peace."
"Towards this end, it is imperative that we, the peoples of Earth, declare our responsibility to one another, to the greater community of life, and to future generations."

Sunday, April 24, 2011

An Orchard for A Third Street Community Foundation

      One of the blogs I follow is listed in my blog list.  The organization is located out in North Tulsa along Peoria, in a community called Turley between Tulsa proper and Skiatook.  My dad lived out there and my sister still does.  It is mixed race, semi-rural, working class and low income.  Rev. Ron Robinson and Bonnie Ashing are creating with the community, a community kitchen garden park and community center.  This is where I believe the future of the citizens of our country lies, with "we the people" working and organizing from the ground up.  So groups like A Third Street Community in Turley may be way ahead of the rest of us.  Here is a way you can help.  I'll let them explain in their own words:

    "Hi all. Here is an update on our work on the community kitchengardenpark at 6005 N. Johnstown Ave. There should be a Tulsa World article coming out soon about our efforts to mobilize people to vote for us in an online national contest going on right now by the National Fruit Tree Foundation. We hope you can help us by voting and spreading the news to other networks. We are the only site in Oklahoma in the competition. 120 sites were chosen and of them, five orchards per month will be given away to the top vote getters.
   Send this email or link to all you can: http://www.communitiestakeroot.com/Plant/Index. There you can register easily to vote, takes just a few minutes to register so you can then vote daily. You don't have to choose to receive any of their mailings unless you want to. Remember to bookmark the link above and go vote easily in just a few clicks every day. Go to the list of states and scroll down to Oklahoma and there you will find the link to go read about us and vote for us. If you have any problems let us know. So many people in our community here do not have computers or internet access so we are relying on the compassion and dedication of so many others who do."

        A Third Street Community Foundation is definitely in the top ten in the competition to qualify for their very own orchard. So lets try to keep them at the top! I have a deep seated feeling that food independence is vitally important for citizens to sense their power and central role in creating the kind of world they want to live and work in. We should support the pioneers who may end up showing the rest of us how this is done. Thanks, G. G.

Thursday, April 14, 2011

What Is Going On Here?

OK you all!  If you have read, "Shock Doctrine," by Naomi Klein you will know what this article is talking about.  The whole Libya thing sort of had a funny feel to it.  And why did we jump in to help the rebels there but not in other countries.  Granted, their leader is strange, funny looking and weird.  He looks like a bad guy but the US did support him at one time.....
Anyway, check out this article.  I intend to read the author's book.  There is more to all this and I want to know what it means.  Get the facts and think for yourself!  Oh yes, here is a link to Ellen Brown's blog:

Libya: All About Oil, or All About Banking?

by: Ellen Brown, Truthout

A line of rebel trucks wait at the western entrance to Ajdabiya, Libya, on April 11, 2011. (Photo: Bryan Denton / The New York Times)
Several writers have noted the odd fact that the Libyan rebels took time out from their rebellion in March to create their own central bank - this before they even had a government. Robert Wenzel wrote in the Economic Policy Journal:
I have never before heard of a central bank being created in just a matter of weeks out of a popular uprising. This suggests we have a bit more than a rag tag bunch of rebels running around and that there are some pretty sophisticated influences.
Alex Newman wrote in the New American:
In a statement released last week, the rebels reported on the results of a meeting held on March 19. Among other things, the supposed rag-tag revolutionaries announced the "[d]esignation of the Central Bank of Benghazi as a monetary authority competent in monetary policies in Libya and appointment of a Governor to the Central Bank of Libya, with a temporary headquarters in Benghazi."
Newman quoted CNBC Senior Editor John Carney, who asked, "Is this the first time a revolutionary group has created a central bank while it is still in the midst of fighting the entrenched political power? It certainly seems to indicate how extraordinarily powerful central bankers have become in our era."
Another anomaly involves the official justification for taking up arms against Libya. Supposedly it's about human rights violations, but the evidence is contradictory. According to an article on the Fox News web site on February 28:
As the United Nations works feverishly to condemn Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi for cracking down on protesters, the body's Human Rights Council is poised to adopt a report chock-full of praise for Libya's human rights record.
The review commends Libya for improving educational opportunities, for making human rights a "priority" and for bettering its "constitutional" framework. Several countries, including Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia but also Canada, give Libya positive marks for the legal protections afforded to its citizens - who are now revolting against the regime and facing bloody reprisal.
Whatever might be said of Qaddafi's personal crimes, the Libyan people seem to be thriving. A delegation of medical professionals from Russia, Ukraine and Belarus wrote in an appeal to Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin that after becoming acquainted with Libyan life, it was their view that in few nations did people live in such comfort:
[Libyans] are entitled to free treatment and their hospitals provide the best in the world of medical equipment. Education in Libya is free, capable young people have the opportunity to study abroad at government expense. When marrying, young couples receive 60,000 Libyan dinars (about 50,000 US dollars) of financial assistance. Non-interest state loans and as practice shows, undated. Due to government subsidies the price of cars is much lower than in Europe and they are affordable for every family. Gasoline and bread cost a penny, no taxes for those who are engaged in agriculture. The Libyan people are quiet and peaceful, are not inclined to drink and are very religious.
They maintained that the international community had been misinformed about the struggle against the regime. "Tell us," they said, "who would not like such a regime?"
Even if that is just propaganda, there is no denying at least one very popular achievement of the Libyan government: it brought water to thedesert by building the largest and most expensive irrigation project in history, the $33 billion GMMR (Great Man-Made River) project. Even more than oil, water is crucial to life in Libya. The GMMR provides 70 percent of the population with water for drinking and irrigation, pumping it from Libya's vast underground Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System in the south to populated coastal areas 4,000 kilometers to the north. The Libyan government has done at least some things right.
Another explanation for the assault on Libya is that it is "all about oil," but that theory, too, is problematic. As noted in the National Journal, the country produces only about 2 percent of the world's oil. Saudi Arabia alone has enough spare capacity to make up for any lost production if Libyan oil were to disappear from the market. And if it's all about oil, why the rush to set up a new central bank?
Another provocative bit of data circulating on the net is a 2007 Democracy Now! interview of US Gen. Wesley Clark (Ret.). In it he says that about ten days after September 11, 2001, he was told by a general that the decision had been made to go to war with Iraq. Clark was surprised and asked why. "I don't know!" was the response. "I guess they don't know what else to do!" Later, the same general said they planned to take out seven countries in five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.
What do these seven countries have in common? In the context of banking, one that sticks out is that none of them is listed among the 56 member banks of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS). That evidently puts them outside the long regulatory arm of the central bankers' central bank in Switzerland.
The most renegade of the lot could be Libya and Iraq, the two that have actually been attacked. Kenneth Schortgen Jr., writing on Examiner.com, noted, "[s]ix months before the US moved into Iraq to take down Saddam Hussein, the oil nation had made the move to accept Euros instead of dollars for oil and this became a threat to the global dominance of the dollar as the reserve currency and its dominion as the petrodollar."
According to a Russian article titled "Bombing of Lybia - Punishment for Ghaddafi for His Attempt to Refuse US Dollar," Qaddaffi made a similarly bold move: he initiated a movement to refuse the dollar and the euro and called on Arab and African nations to use a new currency instead, the gold dinar. Qaddafi suggested establishing a united African continent, with its 200 million people using this single currency. During the past year, the idea was approved by many Arab countries and most African countries. The only opponents were the Republic of South Africa and the head of the League of Arab States. The initiative was viewed negatively by the USA and the European Union, with French President Nicolas Sarkozy calling Libya a threat to the financial security of mankind; but Qaddafi was not swayed and continued his push for the creation of a united Africa.
And that brings us back to the puzzle of the Libyan central bank. In an article posted on the Market Oracle, Eric Encina observed:
One seldom mentioned fact by western politicians and media pundits: the Central Bank of Libya is 100% State Owned.... Currently, the Libyan government creates its own money, the Libyan Dinar, through the facilities of its own central bank. Few can argue that Libya is a sovereign nation with its own great resources, able to sustain its own economic destiny. One major problem for globalist banking cartels is that in order to do business with Libya, they must go through the Libyan Central Bank and its national currency, a place where they have absolutely zero dominion or power-broking ability. Hence, taking down the Central Bank of Libya (CBL) may not appear in the speeches of Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy but this is certainly at the top of the globalist agenda for absorbing Libya into its hive of compliant nations.
Libya not only has oil. According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), its central bank has nearly 144 tons of gold, in its vaults. With that sort of asset base, who needs the BIS, the IMF and their rules?
All of which prompts a closer look at the BIS rules and their effect on local economies. An article on the BIS web site states that central banks in the Central Bank Governance Network are supposed to have as their single or primary objective "to preserve price stability." They are to be kept independent from government to make sure that political considerations don't interfere with this mandate. "Price stability" means maintaining a stable money supply, even if that means burdening the people with heavy foreign debts. Central banks are discouraged from increasing the money supply by printing money and using it for the benefit of the state, either directly or as loans.
In a 2002 article in Asia Times titled "The BIS vs National Banks," Henry Liu maintained:
BIS regulations serve only the single purpose of strengthening the international private banking system, even at the peril of national economies. The BIS does to national banking systems what the IMF has done to national monetary regimes. National economies under financial globalization no longer serve national interests.
... FDI [foreign direct investment] denominated in foreign currencies, mostly dollars, has condemned many national economies into unbalanced development toward export, merely to make dollar-denominated interest payments to FDI, with little net benefit to the domestic economies.
He added, "Applying the State Theory of Money, any government can fund with its own currency all its domestic developmental needs to maintain full employment without inflation." The "state theory of money" refers to money created by governments rather than private banks.
The presumption of the rule against borrowing from the government's own central bank is that this will be inflationary, while borrowing existing money from foreign banks or the IMF will not. But all banks actually create the money they lend on their books, whether publicly owned or privately owned. Most new money today comes from bank loans. Borrowing it from the government's own central bank has the advantage that the loan is effectively interest free. Eliminating interest has been shown to reduce the cost of public projects by an average of 50 percent.
And that appears to be how the Libyan system works. According to Wikipedia, the functions of the Central Bank of Libya include "issuing and regulating banknotes and coins in Libya" and "managing and issuing all state loans." Libya's wholly state-owned bank can and does issue the national currency and lend it for state purposes.
That would explain where Libya gets the money to provide free education and medical care and to issue each young couple $50,000 in interest-free state loans. It would also explain where the country found the $33 billion to build the GMMR project. Libyans are worried that NATO-led airstrikes are coming perilously close to this pipeline, threatening another humanitarian disaster.
So, is this new war all about oil or all about banking? Maybe both - and water as well. With energy, water and ample credit to develop the infrastructure to access them, a nation can be free of the grip of foreign creditors. And that may be the real threat of Libya: it could show the world what is possible. Most countries don't have oil, but new technologies are being developed that could make non-oil-producing nations energy independent, particularly if infrastructure costs are halved by borrowing from the nation's own publicly-owned bank. Energy independence would free governments from the web of the international bankers and of the need to shift production from domestic to foreign markets to service the loans.
If the Qaddafi government goes down, it will be interesting to watch whether the new central bank joins the BIS, whether the nationalized oil industry gets sold off to investors and whether education and health care continue to be free.

Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Concerned About Coal in Oklahoma?

Here is a link to Oklahoma Sierra Club, Working For A Coal Free Oklahoma.  They have links to several articles and reports that go into more detail about effects of Coal for energy as it relates directly to Oklahoma.  It also has links for letting your opinion be know to "the powers that be."  Right now, the EPA is accepting public comments on their proposed plan to protect air in Oklahoma by cleaning up or shutting down three dirty coal plants in the state. There will be two important EPA public hearings in Oklahoma City on April 13th and Tulsa April 14th.  Needless to say, there are interested parties in OK ready to fight any proposed plan from the EPA.

Monday, April 11, 2011

Watch This Documentary

This film explores the evolution of propaganda and public relations in the United States, with an emphasis on the elitist theory of democracy and the relationship between war, propaganda and class.
Includes original interviews with a number of dissident scholars including Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, Peter Phillips (Project Censored), John Stauber (PR Watch), Christopher Simpson (The Science of Coercion) and others.
A deep, richly illustrated study of the nature and history of propaganda, featuring some of the world’s most insightful critics, Psywar exposes the propaganda system, providing crucial background and insight into the control of information and thought. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/psywar/

My Favorite Writer for the End of an Empire

My favorite writer/essayist, Joe Bageant, died a couple of weeks ago.  I still weep when I think of how I waited with delicious anticipation for each new post on his blog.  Reading each new essay was like a taking long cool drink of water in the middle of an Oklahoma August, only funnier.  I have a link to his website in my list of important links.  Friends are keeping the site going, with it's huge accumulation of essays,  for the time being.  And it is possible that his writings might be published in a collection.  But for now, check them out while you can.  Here is a link that will enable you to download many of the best to your computer or electronic reader.  Some one has given them jazzy covers which are kind of funny but really, read them and enjoy!  http://coldtype.net/joe.html 

And consider getting his books.  I loved, "Deer Hunting With Jesus," and plan to purchase his last book, "Rainbow Pie," kind of a memoir, which was published right before he died.  Here is a link to an essay written about Joe by Marc Campbell which gives a good description of the man.

Sunday, April 10, 2011

Redefining Democracy

I just finished two documentaries.  I've been watching all day while I did some cleaning and reorganizing.  I found this website called Top Documentary Films.  There is a link here in my important links.  I watched one about Hugo Chavez.  How the US tried to help get him ousted.  I got a glimpse of what he is trying to do.  The second is here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/beyond-elections/  It is not short.  Find some clothes to fold or a closet to clean out.  And you will have to read a lot of English subtitles because a lot of it is in Spanish and Portugese.

It is very late and I need to get to bed.  I have been thinking about a bunch of things that I want to start a discussion about such as food and water to start.  What are the very basic needs that we have?  Can we fill these needs ourselves.  Which means you need land...  Maybe you catch my drift.  And what does Democracy from the bottom, up look like?  So watch the documentary if you have time and I'll write more as I go, after I sleep.

Monday, April 4, 2011

We Are One: Remembering King’s Struggle for Labor Rights

By Michael Honey

Michael Honey is editor of King’s labor speeches, “All Labor Has Dignity” (Beacon) and author of“Going Down Jericho Road: The Memphis Strike: Martin Luther King’s Last Campaign” (Norton).
“It is a crime for people to live in this rich nation and receive starvation wages.  And I need not remind you this is our plight as a people all over America.” – Martin Luther King in Memphis, March 18, 1968
April 4 marks forty-three years since an assassin killed Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., in Memphis.  That date has special meaning this year.
“We Are One” events all over the U.S. are fighting for collective bargaining rights, and more broadly, a reversal of the current priorities and direction of events.  The connection of today’s union rights battle to King’s legacy is clear.  The strike of Memphis sanitation workers revolved around Mayor Henry Loeb’s refusal to grant collective bargaining rights and union dues collection.
These are the same rights that Governor Scott Walker just took away from public employees in Wisconsin.  Like Loeb, he knows this is a good way to kill a union.  Who would choose to belong to and pay dues to a union that cannot represent them at the bargaining table?
People across the country today are protesting the Republican attempts to utterly destroy the unions.  They are virtually the only group that still has the power to stand up against the power of organized money.
King supported unions from his earliest college days and called them the “first anti-poverty program.”  Unions provided King with staunch allies and provided his greatest financial support in the Montgomery bus boycott, the Birmingham movement, the March on Washington, and other battles.
Mainly because of King’s sacrifice, the sanitation workers in Memphis won their strike.  Their union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), now represents millions of government workers, including many African Americans workers in the District of Columbia.  Unionists regard King as an honorary member and practically a founder of AFSCME.
That’s exactly the union Republicans want to kill. AFSCME and a few other large unions provide the only major counter weight to corporate money in elections.  Kill the unions, and you cripple the Democrats and the ability of working-class folks to resist the political power of organized money.
While the Arab world struggles in pro-democracy movements, we in the U.S. are struggling to keep the union rights that King and others died to achieve.  Unions are an endangered species, as they were in Memphis before King came to that city.  Those of us rallying today feel we are making King’s legacy real in our own lives.  And we feel Americans need to reframe their understanding of King and his legacy.
Many think of King as purely a civil rights leader.  In addition, we need to recognize his fierce advocacy of labor rights and economic justice.  A child of the depression, King always expressed solidarity with poor people.  They included his neighbors, his parishioners, and his family.  His father fled sharecropping and arrived in Atlanta with only a few dollars; his grandparents had worked hard laboring jobs; three of his great-grand parents were slaves.
King was not only a leader for civil rights, which he called “phase one” of the freedom movement.  "We Are One" demonstrations on April 4 remember King’s launch of “phase two,” his Poor People’s Campaign demanding a shift in government priorities from warfare and tax cuts for the rich to creating jobs and enhancing health care, housing and education.
King had been on this path for a long time, speaking at union meetings all over the country.  He told the Illinois AFL-CIO in 1965, “It is a constitutional right for a man to be able to vote, but the human right to a decent house is as categorically imperative and morally absolute as was that constitutional right.  It is not a constitutional right that men [and women] have jobs, but it is a human right.”
King also warned the AFL-CIO at its national convention in 1961 that an alliance of business and right wing politicians in the future would threaten “everything decent and fair in American life.”  They are doing it now.
On this April 4, we should remember King’s words to the Memphis sanitation workers:  “All labor has dignity… You are going beyond purely civil rights to questions of human rights.”  There is no better time than the present to follow King’s lead and stand up for the rights of working and poor people.

Sunday, April 3, 2011

Back to Issues of Land and Food

Here is a news segment on Real News describing the resistance in Honduras.  The peasant's land has been taken to grow Palm oil plantations.  Aside from the affects of large agricultural fields of mono-cultures on the environment, these small farmers were providing food for themselves and others on farms far less destructive to the environment.  When they are removed from their land, where do they go for food?  To cities looking for jobs?  Personally, I am trying not to buy any food containing palm oil.  There is absolutely NO REASON to even produce or use this stuff!  Except to make more profit for very rich people who care little about sustainability, the planet, the people.  People who have no desire to share with anyone.  People who will kill those who get in their way.

Survival of the Fittest?  Are these the people you want to pass their genetic characteristics on to more of their kind?  Or do you admire the Campesinos who know how to care for their community, know how to grow and share healthy food, dream of a better country and will fight for their fellow country men.  Who is the "fittest" human being?

Did you hear about this?

250,000+ Protest In London

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More than 250,000 people came from across the U.K. to protest in central London against public spending cuts and other issues on Saturday. In the largest public protest since the Iraq war rally in 2003, activists set off from Victoria Embankment to Hyde Park. The march began at 12:00 GMT, and it took more than four hours for the protesters to file past theHouses of Parliament on their way to the park. TheTUC organized the event, and said so many people turned out they stopped counting.